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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-30-2011, 09:46 AM Thread Starter
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Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook


My daughter's 2008 Outlook has a mind of it's own. The fan will come on all by itself and drain the battery. They have been stranded numerous times because the battery is dead from this. They have to keep their jumper cables at all times. Just takes a jump and they're on their way again but it's sooooo inconvenient. She has a new baby and was stuck for 2 hours the other day because of no one to jump her off. They had the battery replaced but didn't help the situation. I need any help I can get and fast. They are newly stationed in Hawaii and have NO ONE to help them.

Forgot to mention that the ambient temp keeps showing extremely high temp. 120-140 sometimes. Could this be contributing to the situation?
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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

Its possible that the ambient air temp sensor is bad- and reporting bad temps.
This can be causing the fan to come on- since the car thinks its very hot...

The sensor is located somewhere in front of the radiator. The pic below is the sensor on my 2010 Traverse.
On your Outlook is should be in a similar location. They are actually quite cheap. About $5-7.
You can try and replace it to see if that helps.

But you also need to tell them to buy one of the items shown below. they range from $80-$170. depending on how much 'juice' you need.
some even have lights so you can work in the dark. You charge it up. leave it in the back of the vehicle. when you need a jump start- you connect it- and it will give you a boost. note the extra light-- that plugs in- there appears to be a 12v plug on the pack.
Just go to your local auto parts and buy one of those. I think even wal mart sells these.





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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

OP: were are talking about the radiator cooling fan right?

As for the ambient temperature sensor, there was also a TSB to relocate it on certain vehicles when it read wrong.

rbarrios: can you find it?
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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

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OP: were are talking about the radiator cooling fan right?

As for the ambient temperature sensor, there was also a TSB to relocate it on certain vehicles when it read wrong.

rbarrios: can you find it?
Medic is right... you may simply have to relocate it.

TECHNICAL

Bulletin No.: 08-01-39-008A

Date: March 30, 2009

Subject:
Ambient Air Temperature Sensor Display In Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Inaccurate Or Reads Too High (Reposition Ambient Air Temperature Sensor and Reprogram HVAC Control Module)

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2007-2008 GMC Acadia
2007-2008 Saturn OUTLOOK

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This bulletin is being revised to update the parts information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 08-01-39-008 (Section 08 - Body and Accessories).

Condition

Some customers may comment that the ambient temperature display is inaccurate or reads too high.

Correction

Technicians are to relocate the ambient air temperature sensor to a new location and reprogram the Heating Ventilation And Air Conditioning (HVAC) Control Module.

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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

Good question about which fan is coming on. The electric fans under the hood would draw down the battery if they have a bad relay or electrical problem.

The A/C fan has a factory setting which can be turned on or off by a service tech to allow that fan to blow with the vehicle off to dry off the evaporator to prevent the accumulation of mold or smells in the HVAC system. It's supposed to run for 10 minutes, but that could be a problem.


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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

Wow, here's a copy of a post just a few topics down from this one.

While still under warranty, I took the car in and the service tech made a software change to make the moisture detector built into our cars turn on the AC/heater blowers when moisture is detected after the engine is shut off. I would sometimes return after a short period to find the blowers just "blowin' their hearts out". Worked fine for a while but eventually the blowers would run so long that the battery went dead. Took a look for pinched AC drain lines and sure enough found one so the CORRECT fix was a pinched drain line and not a software change. Angry

Now out of warranty but with extended warranty, I returned to the Saturn Authorized Service center (Chevy dealer) to have the software returned to factory specs to save my newly purchased battery ($165), learning that a fix to fix a GM techs' incorrect fix would cost me shop fees and supplies. flaming mad Extended warranty is drive train only.

Bottom line: Don't let them do the software mod unless you are ready to replace your battery more often.

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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

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Wow, here's a copy of a post just a few topics down from this one.

While still under warranty, I took the car in and the service tech made a software change to make the moisture detector built into our cars turn on the AC/heater blowers when moisture is detected after the engine is shut off. I would sometimes return after a short period to find the blowers just "blowin' their hearts out". Worked fine for a while but eventually the blowers would run so long that the battery went dead. Took a look for pinched AC drain lines and sure enough found one so the CORRECT fix was a pinched drain line and not a software change. Angry

Now out of warranty but with extended warranty, I returned to the Saturn Authorized Service center (Chevy dealer) to have the software returned to factory specs to save my newly purchased battery ($165), learning that a fix to fix a GM techs' incorrect fix would cost me shop fees and supplies. flaming mad Extended warranty is drive train only.

Bottom line: Don't let them do the software mod unless you are ready to replace your battery more often.
While that thread pertained to dead battery as result of "after blow" feature for the passenger compartment (i.e. dry moisture buildup on HVAC core/coils), the OP in this thread is after the radiator fan or A/C fan coming on in the engine compartment. Same symptom, an intermittently dead battery, but is a very different problem.



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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

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My daughter's 2008 Outlook has a mind of it's own. The fan will come on all by itself and drain the battery. They have been stranded numerous times because the battery is dead from this. They have to keep their jumper cables at all times. Just takes a jump and they're on their way again but it's sooooo inconvenient. She has a new baby and was stuck for 2 hours the other day because of no one to jump her off. They had the battery replaced but didn't help the situation. I need any help I can get and fast. They are newly stationed in Hawaii and have NO ONE to help them.

Forgot to mention that the ambient temp keeps showing extremely high temp. 120-140 sometimes. Could this be contributing to the situation?
Just wondering where in the post it mentions the engine compartment fan is the problem? The OP was even asked by another member if it was the radiator cooling fan and there has been no reply.


OP: were are talking about the radiator cooling fan right?



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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

Hopefully the OP will reply and shed some light as to which "fan" is staying on. Personally I think it's the blower fan staying on to dry out the AC system.

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Re: Fan running when car shut off-dead battery 2008 Outlook

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My daughter's 2008 Outlook has a mind of it's own. The fan will come on all by itself and drain the battery. They have been stranded numerous times because the battery is dead from this. They have to keep their jumper cables at all times. Just takes a jump and they're on their way again but it's sooooo inconvenient. She has a new baby and was stuck for 2 hours the other day because of no one to jump her off. They had the battery replaced but didn't help the situation. I need any help I can get and fast. They are newly stationed in Hawaii and have NO ONE to help them.

Forgot to mention that the ambient temp keeps showing extremely high temp. 120-140 sometimes. Could this be contributing to the situation?
Are there any GM dealers on the island that they can contact? I would recommend taking the vehicle in since it would be difficult to dianose online. I can locate on in the area for them. Please feel free to contact me privately with their zip code. Thank you.

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