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#PIT4574B Crank No Start After Parking On An Incline When The Fuel Level is Low

OK, 2 days ago, my Outlook XR would not start. I live in Northern VA, and many new homes have inclines on the driveways. I had about 1/8 a tank of gas in it, so after 2 days, the local Saturn Dealer found the Subject Document problem that applies not only to Outlooks, but Acadia, Enclaves, and Traverse, since 2007. This came out on September 28, 2008. I have attached a copy for everyone.

I am not real happy about this, not sure if it's something worth pursing like turning in the Outlook. I already have had the dealer to order the back door inside trim because of a defect, I noticed a yellow spot on the hood (Outllook is white) that they are going to try and detail out, etc. So, its a 10 day old car to me and already having these problems , not sure what to do but I did want to let everyone know in case you have this problem.

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Ya, thats been going on since day one for these vehicles. I think that they want to keep more gas in it . I'm sure that they can get the spot out of the hood and the trim thing well lets say sometimes the greatest materials are not used I think once you get past these things I hope all will be well. Mine goes in today to get a trim piece installed on the shift lever and to get the remote start fixed (it wont work)

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OK, 2 days ago, my Outlook XR would not start. I live in Northern VA, and many new homes have inclines on the driveways. I had about 1/8 a tank of gas in it, so after 2 days, the local Saturn Dealer found the Subject Document problem that applies not only to Outlooks, but Acadia, Enclaves, and Traverse, since 2007. This came out on September 28, 2008. I have attached a copy for everyone.

I am not real happy about this, not sure if it's something worth pursing like turning in the Outlook. I already have had the dealer to order the back door inside trim because of a defect, I noticed a yellow spot on the hood (Outllook is white) that they are going to try and detail out, etc. So, its a 10 day old car to me and already having these problems , not sure what to do but I did want to let everyone know in case you have this problem.

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As an Auto Tech graduate and working in the industry for 13 yrs. I can tell you that low fuel is not a good idea, even if not on an incline. You are doing harm to your fuel pump by making it work extra hard when the fuel is low. It sloshes around when driving and stopping and the fuel is not always at the pump which makes it run dry for brief periods thus overheating as well. No one should ever let their vehicle get under 1/4 tank or problem will happen.

As for your other troubles I hope you are very well taken care of. The Outlook is a great vehicle and hope you get to enjoy yours.

Kevin

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As an Auto Tech graduate and working in the industry for 13 yrs. I can tell you that low fuel is not a good idea, even if not on an incline. You are doing harm to your fuel pump by making it work extra hard when the fuel is low. It sloshes around when driving and stopping and the fuel is not always at the pump which makes it run dry for brief periods thus overheating as well. No one should ever let their vehicle get under 1/4 tank or problem will happen.

As for your other troubles I hope you are very well taken care of. The Outlook is a great vehicle and hope you get to enjoy yours.

Kevin
Thanks, Kevin. I hear ya on the 1/4 tank of gas, I'm still getting used to the gas gauge, it seems to adjust itself as you drive so if I think I have 1/2 tank of gas, and while I drive, it moves forward a little toward 5/8, especially on flat surfaces. I will keep 1/4 or more gas in it, the hoops I went thru to get too work when it would not start the other day just aren't fun.

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tireman43, do you work a Saturn or GM dealership?

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6Sixathome nope, I work for a smaller shop. We have 3 locations in Southern MN. I don't acually work on the vehicles anymore either. I moved to being a service writer about 5 yrs ago. I still see and hear it all though and now I'm the "bad" guy trying to explain it to the customer.

No problem thedears. I try to get that through to my wife also and it doesn't always work. LOL Another good reminder for everyone too, is that when starting your vehicle turn your key to the run position and pause for about 10 seconds to give the fuel pump time to prime. Don't just get in and fire up right away. Just a helpful hint for extending the life of the pump.

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6Sixathome nope, I work for a smaller shop. We have 3 locations in Southern MN. I don't acually work on the vehicles anymore either. I moved to being a service writer about 5 yrs ago. I still see and hear it all though and now I'm the "bad" guy trying to explain it to the customer.

No problem thedears. I try to get that through to my wife also and it doesn't always work. LOL Another good reminder for everyone too, is that when starting your vehicle turn your key to the run position and pause for about 10 seconds to give the fuel pump time to prime. Don't just get in and fire up right away. Just a helpful hint for extending the life of the pump.
Atleast we have the same color Outlook, Cream White .

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As an Auto Tech graduate and working in the industry for 13 yrs. I can tell you that low fuel is not a good idea, even if not on an incline. You are doing harm to your fuel pump by making it work extra hard when the fuel is low. It sloshes around when driving and stopping and the fuel is not always at the pump which makes it run dry for brief periods thus overheating as well. No one should ever let their vehicle get under 1/4 tank or problem will happen.

As for your other troubles I hope you are very well taken care of. The Outlook is a great vehicle and hope you get to enjoy yours.

Kevin
Great advice

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