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vwtodd 07-22-2014 08:05 PM

'09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
Bought our Outlook from dealer with 47k. Steering rack was leaking like crazy and was replaced (new part number), along with steering column. Now we have the loud slow-speed steering clunk at 106k. Is there any resolution that does not involve me spending another $1k? I cannot believe that it is broken again. On top of all the other things that have broken, this is insane.

ls973800 07-23-2014 12:01 AM

Re: '09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
Te clunking is usually a result of the bushings wearing out. They are replaceable, but I believe the rack has to come out to do it. Following copy and paste is just part of some comments posted by a veteran GM suspension/steering master tech on another forum (Traverse) which uses the same components.

the loud/hard clunking noise heard on model years 2010 & prior is due to steering gear mount bushings. the replacement bushings are made of an updated compound. service procedure requires r&r of steering rack/pinion to replace. as bad as the noise can sound, it does not present any safety/operational issues in my opinion.

XRDreamliner 07-23-2014 02:08 AM

Re: '09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
[quote a uthor=vwtodd link=topic=3977.msg18833#msg18833 date=1406070308]
I cannot believe that it is broken again. On top of all the other things that have broken, this is insane.[/quote]

The steering rack mount bushings caused the clunking after 35k miles on my '09 Outlook. How many miles are on the replaced steering rack? When was it installed?

vwtodd 07-24-2014 10:47 PM

Re: '09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XRDreamliner
The steering rack mount bushings caused the clunking after 35k miles on my '09 Outlook. How many miles are on the replaced steering rack? When was it installed?

Rack was installed around 49k, car now has 106k, so about 57k on new rack.

vwtodd 07-24-2014 10:48 PM

Re: '09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ls973800
Te clunking is usually a result of the bushings wearing out. They are replaceable, but I believe the rack has to come out to do it. Following copy and paste is just part of some comments posted by a veteran GM suspension/steering master tech on another forum (Traverse) which uses the same components.

the loud/hard clunking noise heard on model years 2010 & prior is due to steering gear mount bushings. the replacement bushings are made of an updated compound. service procedure requires r&r of steering rack/pinion to replace. as bad as the noise can sound, it does not present any safety/operational issues in my opinion.

Will any further damage occur - or is it a safety issue - to live with the clunk and not replace the bushings?

ls973800 07-25-2014 12:17 PM

Re: '09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vwtodd
Will any further damage occur - or is it a safety issue - to live with the clunk and not replace the bushings?

Did you read the whole quote I posted from the GM suspension/steering tech? I believe his expert opinion was given near the end of the posted information

as bad as the noise can sound, it does not present any safety/operational issues in my opinion.

vwtodd 07-26-2014 08:02 PM

Re: '09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ls973800
Did you read the whole quote I posted from the GM suspension/steering tech? I believe his expert opinion was given near the end of the posted information

as bad as the noise can sound, it does not present any safety/operational issues in my opinion.

You are correct - I did not see the full quote. Thanks.

Karek Manwar 08-11-2014 12:42 PM

Re: '09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
someone local is selling a 2007 xr 4 wheel drive w 130k miles for only 8k..she was asking 11 but brought it down to 8 due to her buying a newer car. Shes getting rid of it cause its a gas hauler and she drives 40 miles per way...Is this a good deal?


Wingmn 08-12-2014 06:07 PM

Re: '09 Outlook. Steering fixed at 47k, now broken again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karek Manwar
someone local is selling a 2007 xr 4 wheel drive w 130k miles for only 8k..she was asking 11 but brought it down to 8 due to her buying a newer car. Shes getting rid of it cause its a gas hauler and she drives 40 miles per way...Is this a good deal?


2007s were prone to sunroof issues - I would ask for a carfax report. Test drive it, my '09 kbb's for 18k, but then again I've only got 65k miles on it, and only problem I know I have is the low speed steering clunk that I've had for about 2 years now. My extended warranty company wouldn't cover a "noise" to replace the necessary bushings, so I live with it.

It's really up to you - but definitely get a carfax report.


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