[curry391]

Hey all!
Well my 07 Outlook just had a tranny meltdown today. 119,955 miles or good service till now. Well I know what the dealer is going to charge for a new tranny, $5-8000 from what I have seen so far. I can get a salvaged one with very low miles for $1300. Question is which other years and models can buy from that will fit my 07 Outlook with AWD. Thanks so much for any input you can give me!

 

[6Sixathome]

My guess is '07 & '08 for sure and I would narrow it down to those 2 years.

 

[salguod]

Don't forget the Acadia has the same drive train. 2009s without the DI engine might work too, in fact, it may be that the trans from all years are the same. I wouldn't bet on it though.

Go to the dealer and get a price anyway, they may have a rebuilt or they may be able to repair yours. They might do used as well, when my Odyssey's transmission went out the dealer offered a used one for $2500 or re-manufactured for $4500. I complained to Honda since it was tranny replacement #2 in 125K miles, and Honda picked up the tab minus $180 shipping.

 

[medicrxdoc]

How do you know its not just a broken waveplate and can be rebuilt and installed for less?

 

[6Sixathome]

2009s without the DI engine might work too

All 2009's rolled off the line with DI engines.

 

[sailfish]

How do you know its not just a broken waveplate and can be rebuilt and installed for less?

This is a good possibility as I have been reading about several lambda's on all the forums here having issues with wave plates breaking. Way cheaper for this repair than a new transmission.

Good luck.

 

[curry391]

Thanks for all the replies so far everyone! I do appreciate the help from thoes of you more familiar with the Outlook than I am. I should hopefully hear something from the dealer today. I'll post an update when that happens.

WHat was happening with the Outlook is the other evening my wife said it was shifting oddly. SO i checked the fluid level and it was ok. The next morning I took it for about a 10 mile drive and it was making a high pitched whine/growl associated with the tranny. It would make it only in drive and more so when I was accelerating. About mile 9.8 the tranny slipped a couple of times and I came to the stop sign by my house and that was it. It would not move anymore.

I am now hoping it is the wave plate you have mentioned. But for now I have to wait til they call me. Thanks for all the help!!

 

[GM Customer Service]

Dear curry391,

The 2007 model year of the Saturn Outlook has the 6 speed automatic Hydra-Matic 6T75 transmission as does the 2008 model year.

Since I am not a technician, I am unable to give you what other transmission might be compatible with your 2007 Outlook, but I hope the information that I did provide to you proves to be helpful.

I hope all goes well with your situation.

Sincerely,
Michelle, GM Customer Service

 

[rbarrios]

ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-0...s=Year:2007|Model:Outlook&hash=item588fb35c33

 

[salguod]

That one's FWD and the OP indicated his was AWD.

Michelle - I'm curious, does your system show different P/Ns for different model years?

 

[rbarrios]

DO'H!

 

[GM Customer Service]

Dear salgoud,

I apologize if there was some wrong information about the transmissions, but the information that I have for the 2007 and 2008 model years has that transmission listed for both the FWD and AWD. (Not trying to argue or anything like that, just clarifying)

I researched the transmission information media.gm.com in the archives section. For the 2007 Outlook it reads, "Hydra-Matic 6T75 6-speed FWD/AWD automatic transmission". The same description is for the 2008 model year too.
Unfortunately, I did not find the part numbers like I was hoping to.

Michelle, GM Customer Service

 

[rbarrios]

The Outlook is powered by the 3.6 L V6 DOHC 24-valve HFV6 engine with Variable Valve Timing, available in two versions:

XE - 270 hp (198 kW) and 248 ft·lbf (331 Nm) of torque
XR - 275 hp (199 kW) and 251 ft·lbf (335 Nm) of torque (dual exhaust)

Both versions use the Hydra-Matic 6T75 six-speed automatic transmission, and are available with either front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive.

 

[salguod]

That's what made me think that the DI engine was an option, I remember seeing two different HP ratings. Didn't realize it was dual vs. single exhaust. There was no HP difference once they went to the DI in '09, was there?

Doing a Google search on 'Hydra-Matic 6T75' seems to indicate that this transmission is still in use in the Lambda platform. Of course, that doesn't mean that all years will bolt up with all engines.

Another interesting tidbit is that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM-Ford_6-speed_automatic_transmission"]it was jointly developed with Ford[/url] and a variation is in use in the Edge, Flex, Fusion and several other Ford products as well as some GM sedans like the G6 and Malibu and other GM SUVs (Equinox and SRX).

 

[curry391]

Still waiting on a call from the dealer. I do appreciate all the input! I'll update when I hear anything!

 

[curry391]

Just got the call from the dealer/ They are telling me the internals came apart. $3600 for a new tranny with 100k warrenty. Not too bad I guess. I was reading online that people were paying $6-8000 for a new tranny. I was a bit worried. I think it is in my best interest to just buck up and pay for the new tranny.
I do appreciate all the help and information everyone gave me. Thank you very much!
Matt

 

[salguod]

Ouch. I'm glad you're happy with that, I sure wouldn't be, even at 120K. hno:

100K warranty on the replacement (new or re-manufactured?) is pretty good. When mine went on the Odyssey, Honda only installed a re-manufactured with a 3 year / 36 month warranty.

After a Grand Caravan with trans troubles, followed by an Odyssey with trans troubles, I was hoping for better from the Outlook. One thing GM is known for is solid transmissions, but with wave plate failures and now hearing of other failures as the miles get higher, it looks like this 6 speed may be an exception. :angryfire:

 

[medicrxdoc]

I don't remember seeing on any of the other lambda boards where anyone needed a completely new tranny....I think this is a first where is wasn't able to be repaired.

 

[salguod]

I thought I saw several with serious issues, may not. Maybe I'm just paranoid with all the tranny issues in past vehicles.

In the past 12-14 years, I've replaced 3 transmissions in two vehicles and the Odyssey's was looking like it was going again at 205K when I traded it last year.

 

[medicrxdoc]

There are a bunch of people having tranny issues...mostly broken wave plates, but I thought that they were all able to be rebuilt.