[erin0525]

I remember reading up on this type of system about 3 yrs ago when I had my Dakota R/T and it is suppose to be completely safe and give you an added 3-4 mpg and 15-20 more HP which is just an acceptable side effect for me! My wife is wanting to sell the Outlook to buy a newer Toyota Venza because of the 3-4 more MPG it gets so before I restart my 6yr $23000 payment plan I figured I would ask and see if this is possible on these cars and if anyone has ever done it? The system I looked into for my Dakota was around $350 and recommended using regular blue windshield wiper fluid as the spray. Thanks for and help guys!
Joe

 

[ls973800]

I have to ask in all due respect. If such a system really provided 3-4 mpg gains and 15-20 more horsepower, don't you think the manufacturer would be installing this right from the factory? They would have nothing to lose! Especially if it only added $350.00 per vehicle, which I am sure they could do it for much less!

Reminds me of those "chips" which flood the listings on eBay. All the mpg gains and additional HP. They are nothing but a resistor to fool some sensors into running the engine differently. They may cost only pennies to make, and if they are so good, why haven't the manufacturers started using them also.

 

[erin0525]

Yeah those "Chips" are crap! All they do is advance the timing on the vehicle and cause premature wear on the engine! And as to the manufacturer I aam sure you are mostly right but just like the chip thing, they set up an engine from the factory to run at a decent performance/fueleconomy/engine longivity and just by tweeking a few settings they can up the performance as much as 20-30 HP cause I know a guy who does this for about $150 fee but with that you scarifice the life of the engine for the added proformance? Again, I assume the engineers take all this into consideration when they build it and weigh the costs and would rather have the engine last 200k and drop a few mpg and some performance and also could no doubt do this mod I am asking about for probably $40? But is it worth the risk to them to have millions of vehicles out there spraying water/wiper fluid into the engine and risking some malfunction cause internal damage? Me myself I am willing to take the chance since I had spoken to people on the forums who had added it to their trucks and had some major hp gains and 3-4 mpgs on their Dakota R/T's (and this is a great addition because most R,T's only get 11mpg city and 15-16hwy and they are 2wd!) Not saying that this is the greatest idea just asking opinions? Thanks for the conversation starter though.

 

[ls973800]

It might be worth it to you. I have heard about the water induction, but that was YEARS ago. I believe the big benefit then was not only additional horsepower, but the water helped remove built up carbon in the system.

When I say years ago, I mean the 60's and 70's. Prior to computer controlled engine management, EGR, catalytic converters, Map sensors, 02 sensors, etc. I really don't have any idea what the addition of water to a modern engine would do.

 

[erin0525]

Eh, she has her mind made up to sell it and buy a Toyota Venza so really doen't matter now anyway! Just got it paid down by half and now she wants to buy another $23000 vehicle! lol