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I understand Saturn dealers will not move from MSRP as part of their no-haggle policy.
What about dealer incentives? Do they negotiate those on a case by case basis? I mean, throw in floor mats, tinted windows?
 

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They will negotiate. I got mine for $1,000 under sticker and the 1.9% interest rate. If your dealer wont budge try another or try a broker.
 

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They will negotiate. I got mine for $1,000 under sticker and the 1.9% interest rate. If your dealer wont budge try another or try a broker.
When did you get that 1.9% financing? How many months? My dealer made it sound like they couldn't budge on Finance rates.
 

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The reality of the situation for Saturn is that they are going to have to start offering better deals to compete with the Acadia. Whether that's special financing or cash back remains to be seen, but I can tell you my local dealer has 15 Outlooks while the local GMC is selling the Acadias as soon as they roll off the truck.

Wife and I have decided to get the Outlook over the Acadia, but we're waiting for the deals to get better in a month or two.
 

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The 1.9% was a GM offered rate for the 2007 models or you could take $1,000 off the MSRP if you opted out of the financing. I took the financing and my auto broker pre-negotiated everything else. I wound up getting the $1,000 off the sticker and he got the dealer prep and administration fee backed out which is preprinted on the buyers invoice.

If they won't budge get an auto broker involved. They usually deal with fleet management and get supplier pricing and or/invoice pricing and pass along the savings or split it with you. If you are in S Florida PM me and I can give you the name and number of my broker. T

The best thing is you pay the broker -0- out of your pocket.
 

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The 1.9% was a GM offered rate for the 2007 models or you could take $1,000 off the MSRP if you opted out of the financing. I took the financing and my auto broker pre-negotiated everything else. I wound up getting the $1,000 off the sticker and he got the dealer prep and administration fee backed out which is preprinted on the buyers invoice.

If they won't budge get an auto broker involved. They usually deal with fleet management and get supplier pricing and or/invoice pricing and pass along the savings or split it with you. If you are in S Florida PM me and I can give you the name and number of my broker. T

The best thing is you pay the broker -0- out of your pocket.
I've got access to the GMS price, so that's not an issue. I was just curious as to when this 1.9% financing was offered. I don't remember seeing it here in Milwaukee.
 

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It was 1.9 for a 3 year lone only. You could end up with a $600.00 + monthly pmt if you're not putting a large amount of money down. For the average buyer that is still pretty steep.
 

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We bought our Outlook on June 21 and took the financing.
1.9% for 36 months
2.9% for 48 months
3.9% for 60 months - we took the 60 months...its better than any credit union was offering in the Indy area...I think they are over 6%

We got the GMS discount which was approximately 8.5% off MSRP.
 

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Never heard of an auto broker. How does that work?
 

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I used the broker and he pre-negotiates the price once you tell him the trim and colors you want. He couldn't find me one so he got a dealer to order him one to my specs. He takes his cut from the dealership and it costs you nothing. He got me a way better deal than I could gotten by myself. Its like having a buyers agent. It was great because I didnt have to deal with the ususal dealership BS. All my paperwork was done in advance and I still got the Saturn Financing.
 

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We got the 5.9% over 72 months, the GMS discount and we traded in a 2003 Nissan Xterra which was clean and clear and they gave us $12,300 for it and added another $2,500 out of pocket. Adding in the extended bumper-to-bumper warranty (6 yr/ 72k miles) w/$50 deductible and everything else...our payment came out to be around $450/mo. Thank goodness for the trade in. :thumb:
 

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XR AWD in Red Jewel Tint, black interior, 2nd row captain's chairs, upgraded audio system, rear power lift gate, sunroof, and added the chrome side bars as well.
 

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The reality of the situation for Saturn is that they are going to have to start offering better deals to compete with the Acadia. Whether that's special financing or cash back remains to be seen, but I can tell you my local dealer has 15 Outlooks while the local GMC is selling the Acadias as soon as they roll off the truck.

Wife and I have decided to get the Outlook over the Acadia, but we're waiting for the deals to get better in a month or two.

I have to admit, you may be right there. I see Acadias a dime a dozen out here. Makes me feel more special as an Outlook owner though. ::) If that's the case, I know Enclave owners must feel even more special!
 

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I think if anything, they will scale back production for the Outlook if sales don't catch on. ****, they may even ditch it all together when the Traverse comes out (Chevy Lambda) because I really don't think there is a need to have 4 versions of the same thing.
 

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I think if anything, they will scale back production for the Outlook if sales don't catch on. ****, they may even ditch it all together when the Traverse comes out (Chevy Lambda) because I really don't think there is a need to have 4 versions of the same thing.
oh oh... if that is the case then what would happen to resale value? I assume no one would want to buy a used Outlook 4-5 years down the road. Is that right?
 

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I think if anything, they will scale back production for the Outlook if sales don't catch on. ****, they may even ditch it all together when the Traverse comes out (Chevy Lambda) because I really don't think there is a need to have 4 versions of the same thing.
I don't see them ditching it altogether as the Outlook is replacing the Relay. Relay owners that have had a good experience may want to replace them with Outlooks at some point.
 

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oh oh... if that is the case then what would happen to resale value? I assume no one would want to buy a used Outlook 4-5 years down the road. Is that right?
I doubt resale would be affected. Saturn is changing their image from value based cars (read: cheap) to higher quality and well designed offerings. So currently Saturn has a stigma for being cheap and alot of people don't like the no haggle pricing which they consider to not be in the customers interests or they could do better price wise at GMC or Buick for the same vehicle. Put all this together along with the fact that Saturn has very little marketing for the Outlook and a small network of dealers and you get poor sales when compared to Acadia. Just because it doesn't sell well doesn't mean the resale will be dismal because it is in fact the same vehicle as the Acadia/Enclave, it just means there will be less to choose from which may warrant a slightly higher price if demand is there but it's too early to tell. Now if over time these vehicles have bad reliability, you can bet your ass they will have poor resale value (all of them).
 
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