[dnl]

We have a 2009 with 35,000 miles. We have had several issues with it already. Three other people we know had problems with theirs, and two of them sold theirs within 3 years.
I was wondering how everyone elses' Outlooks were doing?

 

[XRDreamliner]

We have a 2009 with 35,000 miles. We have had several issues with it already. Three other people we know had problems with theirs, and two of them sold theirs within 3 years.
I was wondering how everyone elses' Outlooks were doing?

I have a 2009 as well. Just passed 53k miles. Only issues were water pump leak, steering issues (steering rack leaking, pump squeal, and zip-tie noise in steering wheel), odd transmission behavior (revs would "hang" an not upshift), and warped front rotors at 28k (we bought it used @ 19k).

I have GMPP. Water pump replaced under Powertrain Warranty. New steering rack, power steering pump, inlet hose, and Dexron fluid installed via TSB P10029F using GMPP. Odd transmission behavior was fixed with software update (free) - the dealership said my MPG would go down, but actually, my highway MPG has improved from 19 MPG to 23 MPG :thumb: I think it has to do with the transmission holding higher gear going up hills vs. before it would downshift/come out of lock-out too easily. I replaced the rotors and pads @ 28k and flushed the brake fluid soon thereafter (every 2-3 years is recommended).

I still have my original cam chains and no symptoms of Wave Plate issues.

 

[dnl]

Interesting.
You make 5 people that I know have had to have the water pump changed on either Outlooks or Acadias.
We also had the Power Steering pump changed due to a high pitch sound when accelerating, and the steering column worked on (all under warranty thankfully).
Sounds like issues that should be recalls.

 

[XRDreamliner]

Interesting.
You make 5 people that I know have had to have the water pump changed on either Outlooks or Acadias.
We also had the Power Steering pump changed due to a high pitch sound when accelerating, and the steering column worked on (all under warranty thankfully).
Sounds like issues that should be recalls.

GM has issued Tech Service Bulletins for the water pump and the steering system, but not a recall. Some people have had their power steering quit during a turn, which obviously cause the driver a bit of angst. If the trend continues, a potential recall could occur, as it relates to safety. We'll see...

As for the Water Pump, don't be surprised if it leaks again, unless your water pump was replaced this year. GM issued a revised mounting bolt installation guide, which involves using new bolts only, and a specific torque-down procedure.

http://www.archivedsites.com/techlink/2011/03/new-water-pump-bolt-torque-sequence.html

 

[dnl]

Ours was replaced this July.

 

[XRDreamliner]

Ours was replaced this July.

Good so they should have used the same procedure.

 

[jscoffey]

i was loving my 2009 outlook. BUT with 34k they have to replace the water pump and a evap module... they have had my truck for three days now... not sure if they know what they are doing? makes me concerned.

 

[dnl]

You mentioned GMPP. What is that?

 

[XRDreamliner]

You mentioned GMPP. What is that?

General Motors Protection Plan. Some GM dealers sell them at a discount. I got the GMPP from Ken Fichtner at Ken Fichtner Chevrolet, 406-628-4618, ext-103. He is a supporting dealer on the Corvette forum. I bought it @ 25k miles. It's good for 6 yr./60k miles from the date of purchase and 25k miles.

 

[outty08]

So far, our 08 XR FWD is going strong. It has just over 82,000 freeway miles in her. We just moved and used to have a 40 mile commute 6days a week. Now we have a 2 mile commute each way. Anyways, the only problems we have had is something to do with the radiator and water belt I believe. About $700 total repairs on the entire vehicle. We have an after market DVD player which works just great. XM is nice, tow package saved our lives with moving. Only thin I wish we had added were a navigation system with backup camera, or at least parking sensors. Other than that, it's great! Only think I hate is the slow shifting of the transmission when you step on it fast.

 

[dnl]

It's good to hear that some of these are fairly trouble free. I am hoping that after all of the repairs that have been made recently, that mine will be also.

 

[XRDreamliner]

Only think I hate is the slow shifting of the transmission when you step on it fast.

Get the updated programming for the transmission - it's worth it.

 

[outty08]

Get the updated programming for the transmission - it's worth it.

How much is it? It does get super annoying. We live on a somewhat slanted cul-d-sac, It is annoying to floor it to get it to shift and then let off again. It does make a sound that is very pleasing though!

 

[salguod]

The '08 & '09 are the worst for reliability, according to True Delta (a great site for reliability data). Oddly, the '07 is the best with the '10 a close second. I would have thought the first year would have been the worst.

 

[XRDreamliner]

How much is it? It does get super annoying. We live on a somewhat slanted cul-d-sac, It is annoying to floor it to get it to shift and then let off again. It does make a sound that is very pleasing though!

My dealership updated the programming for free. I had originally brought it in for a hanging upshift that occurred when I was cresting a mountain pass last month. Going down the hill, the transmission would not go into higher gear, unless I put it in Neutral, and then back to Drive. At 1st, GM engineering advised that they should replace the MAF sensor. After that, my wife drove it to work; when she tried to make it through an intersection, she tried to accelerate, and the engine just revved and revved...

 

[lsuduke]

Our 2010 has had zero issues at this point we are 2 yrs in and at 39k. I have been very pleased with our Outlook. It is my wife's car and she does 100 mile a day back and forth to work, we also tow a new 2013 Jayco travel trailer with it without missing a beat. The only time it hasn't been rolling dwn the road perfectly was when I added an oil/transmisson cooler for towing the trailer, couldn't get the compression fittings to stop leaking, finally got that done and the wife ran over some nails and put 2 holes in a tire, patched and rolling again.

Now its not perfect, mileage is poor used to get 20+ with our minivan, 16 to 19 max , rotors are now warped, but the wife warps all rotors on any vehicle, after 15 plus yrs of marriage, you deal... and next year will need new tires all the way around , tread getting low and some cracking that I'm not happy about, but can't blame Saturn for Goodyear tires.

 

[danler]

We have a 2008 XR with 64,000 miles.
headlight harness wiring recall completed by GM
sunroof leak completed by GM
new tires at about 40,000 miles
new front brakes at about 55,000 miles
had to add freon last summer
And the only other issue I am having right now is a high pitched whine coming from the steering column when turning and accelerating(seeing this forum maybe the steering pump?)

Other than that the vehicle has been great and for being 5 years old I consider myself lucky(purchased Sept 07)!!!

 

[XRDreamliner]

And the only other issue I am having right now is a high pitched whine coming from the steering column when turning and accelerating(seeing this forum maybe the steering pump?)

A whining noise when turning and accelerating is likely a power steering pump. In the interim, you may want to replace the fluid via the turkey baster method to see if you can get it to quiet down (not a guarantee).

 

[danler]

A whining noise when turning and accelerating is likely a power steering pump. In the interim, you may want to replace the fluid via the turkey baster method to see if you can get it to quiet down (not a guarantee).

Thanks XR. The last time I was in for a oil change the garage said my power steering fluid was a dark red and they suggested a fluid change also.

 

[dnl]

The tread on the tires of our 2009 was getting low after 30K miles. I contacted Goodyear and they prorated them. Just call them and let them know where you plan on getting the new ones.