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leobg said:
Mine had this problem last summer. Had it in just before the 36K warranty expires. Humming noise was gone, now I think sometimes it does popping noise, but not always. I have extended warranty purchased, so hopefully if this develops into something worse, they will take care of it. I am not sure how they fixed it last fall, I mean not sure if I got new PS pump or they did something else.
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Our 2008 XR FWD just started making the same sounds out of the pump. We have 21K on it. Whenever my wife gets around to making an appointment it will get fixed. I know it is the pump, I can feel it when I drive.
 

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Hi,
Is it a 'humming' or a 'clunking' sound?

I ask because I noticed that mine started to do a 'clunking/thumping' sound after I start it and begin to drive/pull out of any parking place.


I will take at my power steering fluid level? Is there anything else I should look at ?

(2008 Saturn Outlook XR FWD)

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BL, it could be your ABS doing checks, that happens at around 10-15 MPH and makes a clunk sound, or are hearing something from the steering wheel?
 

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+1. The clunking/thumping sound you're hearing is the ABS system doing it's tests/checks. This usually happens within a few hundred feet from pulling away under light acceleration.
 

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Hi,
I am sorry, but I don't think it's the ABS. I am very familiar with the ABS 'noise' and when it happens.

I guess I should have described my 'noise' in more detail. It happens when I turn the steering wheel to get into or out of parking spaces at 'low' speed. So, when I am coming home from work and I turn into my driveway, I hear the sound as I try to maneuver into my space.

Again, I only started to hear this noise recently (about 2 weeks ago).


Anyways, I went to the dealer and told them my issue. They took a quick look. I asked them about the 'steering fluid levels' and they told me that it doesn't need it because it is 'electric steering'. So the tech told me that these lambdas don't have a steering fluid reservoir.

I made an appointment for them to look at this issue this Saturday.


I will let you know what they find.

thanks,

BL.
 

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I am sorry, but I don't think it's the ABS. I am very familiar with the ABS 'noise' and when it happens.

I guess I should have described my 'noise' in more detail. It happens when I turn the steering wheel to get into or out of parking spaces at 'low' speed. So, when I am coming home from work and I turn into my driveway, I hear the sound as I try to maneuver into my space.

Again, I only started to hear this noise recently (about 2 weeks ago).


Anyways, I went to the dealer and told them my issue. They took a quick look. I asked them about the 'steering fluid levels' and they told me that it doesn't need it because it is 'electric steering'. So the tech told me that these lambdas don't have a steering fluid reservoir.

I made an appointment for them to look at this issue this Saturday.


I will let you know what they find.

thanks,

BL.
BL, I replied to your other post. The only think I can think of is #1. low on PS fluid or #2. the PS pump is going bad. Please let us know what they find.
 

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+1. Groan in steering at low speed (i.e. turn in/out of parking spot) could very well likely be air bubbles in the lines caused by fluid level dropping during use (i.e. articulating the steering all the way to lock). Check if your power steering fluid is at the correct level. I have seen other posts regarding purging air from the lines by idling the vehicle with the PS fluid cap off for approximately 40 minutes. This may help isolate the cause.
 

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Thanks 6Sixathome for the picture and info.


I will check the ps fluid when I get a chance, and before I take it in to the dealer.


thanks,

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Hi,
So I took my car to the dealer on Saturday morning to have them check the 'steering wheel' noise.

Well, I got there and gave them my Outlook. After 2 and 1/2 hours, they come back to me telling me that there was nothing they could do at that time because: "GM released a technical bulletin letting dealers know that they are aware of the 'issue' and that their engineers are looking for a 'fix'. They ask dealers not to do anything at this time until the 'fix' is found."

Well, there goes 2.5 hours of my life down the drain.

By the way, before taking it to the dealer, I did check the power steering fluid levels. It was just at the 'MIN' line. It wasn't below it.

I did leave the cap off for a few minutes while the engine was 'on' and I turned the steering wheel to the right and left a few times. The "loud ticking noise" is still there.

I am now waiting for them to call me as soon as the 'fix' is released.


thanks,

BL.
 

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I'm having a similar (yet different :D ) issue with my wifes 07 Outlook. It sounds more like someone dragging their nails across a screen when you turn the steering wheel. Very odd and only does it when the car is warm (but less noticeable in colder weather). I've read where it could be the "boot" needs lubrication, but that Saturn/GM hasn't figured it out yet. It certainly doesn't sound like the power steering pump on ours.
 

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psmith said:
I'm having a similar (yet different :D ) issue with my wifes 07 Outlook. It sounds more like someone dragging their nails across a screen when you turn the steering wheel. Very odd and only does it when the car is warm (but less noticeable in colder weather).
Like this noise?:

Video shown at the top of this page (reply #45):

http://www.traverseforum.com/index.php?topic=687.45
 

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Copper-

You just nailed it. That video was spot on. Now I'm reading through your thread to see what your result was (the Internet at my office is crawling for some reason today). What a mess. Sounds like you still have the same issue even with the new steering rack?
 

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Copper-

You just nailed it. That video was spot on. Now I'm reading through your thread to see what your result was (the Internet at my office is crawling for some reason today). What a mess. Sounds like you still have the same issue even with the new steering rack?
Actually I do not have that problem anymore. The replacement of the rack immediately negated the noise BUT maybe a month or two later a slightly different noise or feel (re)developed. This was solved when the dealer adjusted and lubricated an incorrectly positioned horn plate (inside the steering wheel).
 

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VERY helpful. Once I resolve the roof leak :angryfire: , I'll move on to that. You may have just single-handedly solved this steering wheel rubbing noise issue for the world! Looks like the steering racks are available for a reasonable price, so time to fire my air tools back up.
 

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I would like to thank you all for posting comments on this issue I was able to fix this issue myself. I was experiencing the humming noise after warm up and it was progressively getting worse. Out of warranty I didn’t even bother having the dealer check for the noise, scared of what it will cost to replace the pump when I brought it in for service last week. The service package included checking the power steering, and they didn’t even comment on how it was groaning, I heard it as the porter pulled the car back. This past Friday I got fed up with the noise and knew it was talked about on this forum, looking for any info on recalls I came across a few that said they or the dealer added fluid and the noise stopped, so being curious I checked the power steering fluid level and it was below min level. I checked my service papers were they checked “Fluid level, OK”. I know they never checked the fluid because the cap and reservoir was filthy, even if they didn’t clean it, they would have left finger prints in the dust and there weren’t any. After calling the service dept, and them wanting me to come down, I just decided to save the gas and add the power steering fluid myself. Well the noise stopped, Thank you Jesus! I am glad it was something simple. So I guess my point is maybe you all should check you fluid level before you bring it to the dealer. Here is the link to the Saturn Outlook owner’s manual, http://www.saturn.com/assets/en/pdf/owners/manuals/2008/442_2k08outlook.pdf look under Service and Appearance Care, then under section 5-11 Checking Things Under the Hood, finally find How to Check Power Steering Fluid. I hope this helps others.
 

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Although I was already told about the steering wheel fluid, I haven't bother to fill it past the MIN level.

I have an appointment with the Chevy dealer tomorrow to have them replace the small hose on the rear wiper. I will have them take care of filling up the steering wheel reservoir. Hopefully, this will take care of the noise I am still hearing.


thanks,


BL.
 
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