[6Sixathome]

Just for fun I went on KBB and NADA and compaired my OUTLOOK against an ACADIA. Same miles, ame options and my OUTLOOK was worth 2K to 4K less than the ACADIA. WHAT IN THE WORLD It's the same vehicle. I think that us Saturn owners got thrown under the bus when GM decided to buzz kill the brand. Maybe some other OUTLOOK owners can get on KBB and NADA so we can get an idea of what the $$ mean in different zip codes.

 

[09XRFWDOWNER]

6Sixathome,

You are right. I checked the value (using trade-in value) on the KBB site and there is a $6,000 difference between the Acadia SLT and the Saturn XR. This, in the SE Michigan area.

Frankly, while things are fresh in folks minds on "no more Saturn", this difference will exist. I would not lose sleep over this. I think, over time, this difference will diminish. I didn't buy it to sell it...right away. As long as we are not "chasing" our vehicles due to water leaks, power steering noises and tranny issues, drive 'em!! If we occasionally need warranty work AND the service is there to perform this correctly the first time, I'll be a happy camper. I've got just under 4,000 miles on mine and everything works...no issues. This vehicle is right for us. Quiet and tight. I just checked my DIC tonight and she's right at 17 mpg running around town. I'm still impressed that a nearly 5,000 lb vehicle delivers this kind of mileage and load carrying space.

Jim
In God We Trust!

 

[caperj]

Thrown under the bus is correct. I posted a while ago on this and got negative response. I sold mine early after they said Penske was out and broke even.In my opinion get out while u can

 

[6Sixathome]

Thrown under the bus is correct. I posted a while ago on this and got negative response. I sold mine early after they said Penske was out and broke even.In my opinion get out while u can

What did you end up buying?

 

[6Sixathome]

6Sixathome,

You are right. I checked the value (using trade-in value) on the KBB site and there is a $6,000 difference between the Acadia SLT and the Saturn XR. This, in the SE Michigan area.

Frankly, while things are fresh in folks minds on "no more Saturn", this difference will exist. I would not lose sleep over this. I think, over time, this difference will diminish. I didn't buy it to sell it...right away. As long as we are not "chasing" our vehicles due to water leaks, power steering noises and tranny issues, drive 'em!! If we occasionally need warranty work AND the service is there to perform this correctly the first time, I'll be a happy camper. I've got just under 4,000 miles on mine and everything works...no issues. This vehicle is right for us. Quiet and tight. I just checked my DIC tonight and she's right at 17 mpg running around town. I'm still impressed that a nearly 5,000 lb vehicle delivers this kind of mileage and load carrying space.

Jim
In God We Trust!

Jim,

I dont know what to think. The 1st OUTLOOK that I bought was supposed to be for the long haul and that one ended up being a lemon. Now this one with the same trans leak, the other one with the trans leak was fixed the 1st time, it was the sunroof that caused it to be a lemon. I mean come on GM is this starting all over again? Maybe it is just a fluke thing and that will be the end of the issues. I can deal with the little stuff like what I'm having fixed now(besides the trans leak), this just makes me wonder what will happen when Saturn can no longer service our vehicles ???

 

[caperj]

I purchased a 2010 Ford Explorer, after much research I have found out that Fords quality and customer service rates and reliability have surpased even the Japanese vehicles in recent years, the warranty is 3yr 60 and 5yr 100 little lower than the Saturn but consumer reports give them a high rating and they also have a great resale value.

 

[jsachs1]

'09 enclave,wherever you are...............Re: Penske thread.
I hate to be "I told you so." hno:
John

 

[6Sixathome]

'09 enclave,wherever you are...............Re: Penske thread.
I hate to be "I told you so." hno:
John

oke:

 

[09Enclave]

'09 enclave,wherever you are...............Re: Penske thread.
I hate to be "I told you so." hno:
John

I'm here...haven't checked this forum in a while. Well...not sure what to think about what kbb.com says, but it's important to put exact options in, and even then...a GMC is probably perceived more expensive than a Saturn, regardless of Saturn going away. Call it what you want, if it's worth less it could be the reason, or something else. I'll play around with it, just for fun, and see what I come up with. So far, I've been happy with what they say my Enclave is worth, but it's still just a guide. A vehicle's value is really what someone is willing to pay. Perhaps you'd run into that individual that likes the look of the Saturn over GMC, or another reason, and would pay more (or at least the same) as a used Acadia. Time will tell.

 

[09Enclave]

OK...I think I figured it out: The Acadia SLE is equal to the Outlook XR. The Acadia SLT is above in equipment and original price over the Outlook XR. (does anyone remember what the price difference was when you purchased your Outlook, assuming you cross shopped it with the Acadia?)

 

[6Sixathome]

I dont think so...maybe a loaded SLE vs a stripped XR. My OUTLOOK was worth just as much as a SLT with the same options that I have 1 month ago, now 3 to 4K less depending on which site KBB or NADA. Were getting screwed by the speculators(KBB and NADA). I dislike speculators :violent: :uzi:.
09' FWD pricing is as follows:
XE-$31,400.00
XR-$35,225.00

SLE-$31,890.00
SLT1-$36,250.00
SLT2-$38,490.00

 

[09Enclave]

Sorry 'bout that....guess they are pegging it lower then the GMC, not sure why. I see the Outlook now has $4,000 off and the Acadia only has $2500 off, so maybe that would offset the KBB and NADA prices some? Just remember those KBB and NADA prices are only guides, and they change from time to time. Check it in about 6 months and see what you find, I bet the gap will narrow.

 

[jsachs1]

Just remember those KBB and NADA prices are only guides, and they change from time to time. Check it in about 6 months and see what you find, I bet the gap will narrow.
[/quote]

IME/IMO,you would be lucky to get book on any model.
A vehicle almost has to pee silver dollars,+ be the color of the month.I've run the biggest auctions in the country,and this is what I find.(excludes hard to get,still in production models).
John

 

[09Enclave]

Just remember those KBB and NADA prices are only guides, and they change from time to time. Check it in about 6 months and see what you find, I bet the gap will narrow.


IME/IMO,you would be lucky to get book on any model.
A vehicle almost has to pee silver dollars,+ be the color of the month.I've run the biggest auctions in the country,and this is what I find.(excludes hard to get,still in production models).
John

Hmmm, not what happened to me last year when I traded in our 01 Silverado for our Enclave. Dealer gave us $6,000, which was $75 more than the very top trade-in value listed on KBB at the time.

 

[6Sixathome]

The #'s did'nt lie this past week when I was trying to deal on an 2010 ACADIA. 2K to 3.5K BELOW trade in book. I'm disgusted. I'm keeping the OUTLOOK!