[cna91]

2009 XR AWD with 93K Miles. About a year ago, it started using oil. I get my oil changed at a local garage every 3-5000 miles. I discovered this oil problem when it started started struggling to accelerate one day when I was about 20 miles from home on a dark summer night in the middle of no where. By the time I got home the engine light was on. I know, I should have stopped sooner. Anyways, in the morning I checked the oil and it was low. I was not due for my oil change yet, so it shouldnt have been this low. Added about a quart and a half. Engine smoothed out. Took it back to the local garage that week so they could check my engine light. They said it had to to with the VVT. I know that the VVT is very sensitive to oil, so it made sense to me.

Well ever since that time, I do have to add a quart every week or 2. I drive about 400-500 miles per week between work and pleasure. Within the past couple weeks (It has been hot here recently) occasionally it will struggle to accelerate and then the light comes on again. I get home and check the oil and it is fine since I fill it regularly now. I checked the air box last weekend, no oil in there. No oil on the ground. No oil (that I can tell) in the exhaust. No oil in the water. No water in the oil.

I am taking it in again tomorrow for an oil change and have them look for a code again. The light was on last night, and off again this morning, oil is fine. Is there anything I can tell them to look for or check? I have read some people mention the EGR valve. Would that cause the lack of acceleration and cause the light to come on, or would that just attribute to the oil consumption? Any other magic fixes, like change oil viscocity or anything?

Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer, Aaron

 

[rbarrios]

1- Stop driving so much....

2- Get the vehicle to a GM dealer--- BEFORE YOU HIT 100,000.

3- once it gets 'fixed' drive all you want....

I only say stop driving so much- so you dont exceed your 100,000 powertrain warranty.

Your 2009 has the 100,000 or 5 yr warranty. (5 yr- based on the IN service date-- when it was sold).
so take it in so they can take note its using oil like crazy-- and the light is coming on...

 

[ls973800]

I'm leaning towards something with the timing chains, actuators, or camshaft end play.

Like rbarrios said, get it to the dealer before your powertrain warranty is up!

 

[GM Customer Service]

Hello cna91,

I'm sorry to hear this! Please keep us posted on your dealership visit. Since I am not a certified technician, I am unable to say what could be the cause of the problem, but if further assistance is needed after your dealership visit, I would be happy to help!

Jessica
GM Customer Care

2009 XR AWD with 93K Miles. About a year ago, it started using oil. I get my oil changed at a local garage every 3-5000 miles. I discovered this oil problem when it started started struggling to accelerate one day when I was about 20 miles from home on a dark summer night in the middle of no where. By the time I got home the engine light was on. I know, I should have stopped sooner. Anyways, in the morning I checked the oil and it was low. I was not due for my oil change yet, so it shouldnt have been this low. Added about a quart and a half. Engine smoothed out. Took it back to the local garage that week so they could check my engine light. They said it had to to with the VVT. I know that the VVT is very sensitive to oil, so it made sense to me.

Well ever since that time, I do have to add a quart every week or 2. I drive about 400-500 miles per week between work and pleasure. Within the past couple weeks (It has been hot here recently) occasionally it will struggle to accelerate and then the light comes on again. I get home and check the oil and it is fine since I fill it regularly now. I checked the air box last weekend, no oil in there. No oil on the ground. No oil (that I can tell) in the exhaust. No oil in the water. No water in the oil.

I am taking it in again tomorrow for an oil change and have them look for a code again. The light was on last night, and off again this morning, oil is fine. Is there anything I can tell them to look for or check? I have read some people mention the EGR valve. Would that cause the lack of acceleration and cause the light to come on, or would that just attribute to the oil consumption? Any other magic fixes, like change oil viscocity or anything?

Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer, Aaron

 

[cna91]

Hello all, thank you all for the replies. I wish I could stop driving so much. 70 miles round trip per day is 350 miles per week just for work

I took it to the Autozone to run the OBD just so I can know before I take it in to the Dealer.
Code was P0017
-Timing misalignment
-detected crank sensor is not alligned with cam sensor
Probable Causes-
--Intermittent connection
--Failed Crank or Cam sensor
--Engine Mechanical condition

I think you all have valid points and I am leaning towards mecahnical condition since it consumes oil. I have heard of the nightmares of the dealerships wanting to blame the user for any problems and I cant afford to have them charge me for stuff that is not my fault. I always have the oil changed well before the oil change meter is expired. Infact right now I am at 60% life left. Since that oil change I have added 3 quarts. Any helppful hints on how to deal with the service department?

 

[rbarrios]

P0017 is one of the codes that usually leads to a timing chain issues. (I think P0008) is the other one.

Just in case--- have receipts for oil changes?

But take it in- tell them you change oil every 3-5000 miles well before OLM reaches 0%
Tell them you check oil level often- and have to add oil to make up...

and now you have the CEL....

They may have you do an oil consumption test..

did you ever have the Oil life monitor software update?
(this changed the OLM to read 0% closer to the 5000 mark -- instead of 10,000)

 

[cna91]

I dont know if it got the update. I am going to guess no though. I am the second owner and I havent taken it in for anything like that. I dont have the receipts but I getr the oil changes in a small family run garage here in my small town. I sent them a message to see if they keep the records.

 

[rbarrios]

grab your VIN-
and contact one of the GM customer service reps on here- or the Acadia, Traverse, Enclave forum... send them a message and they should be able to look it up in the system.

Or call the dealer and give them the vin.

 

[cna91]

Just as an update. After 31 days in the shop, they rebuilt the engine. They replaced timing chains, actuators, pistons, rings, etc... Got the Outlook back and now it actually leaks oil, about 2mpg less mpg and check engine light STILL comes on. This time instead of P0017, the code is P0016. That particular dealer called me to give me a status, exactly 1 time in that 31 days. But now that they know I am unhappy, all of a suddent they have called. It needs to go back in, but there is no way I am taking it back to the same dealer service. Not if I can help it anyways. Still awaiting contact from customer service. Feeling very frustrated. :angryfire: