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I got them today, runs like crap and would'nt go over 20mph, it's starting to make me mad :banghead:
 

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*update* I went out to move it a little and it almost would'nt start and would'nt go forward or reverse, it's running really bad. I'm going to have to get towed to the dealer.
 

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Well crap! :banghead:

I can't believe it you just got it back from the dealer working on it. What are the odds? :mope:
 

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Well crap! :banghead:

I can't believe it you just got it back from the dealer working on it. What are the odds? :mope:
I dont know what the odds are but it's starting to upset the waters around here :angryfire:, well I guess just me. If it's timing chain related I know for sure it's NOT because the oil never got changed, it be because of substandard parts! If it's computer related or coil related I'll feel better about it. I dont trust the OUTLOOK, I trust my '05 VUE 100 times more and even trust the '08 SIERRA I just bought one month ago 100 times more right now ( I feel like I've had it since new, it just feels right)(I had the OUTLOOK since new and that right now really does'nt feel right :-\). When this thing gets fixed it had better stay running good for a While. Last night was the first night since new it has spent outside :sosad:. pouring rain, wind, who knows what else :binky:
 

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I dont know what the odds are but it's starting to upset the waters around here :angryfire:, well I guess just me. If it's timing chain related I know for sure it's NOT because the oil never got changed, it be because of substandard parts! If it's computer related or coil related I'll feel better about it. I dont trust the OUTLOOK, I trust my '05 VUE 100 times more and even trust the '08 SIERRA I just bought one month ago 100 times more right now ( I feel like I've had it since new, it just feels right)(I had the OUTLOOK since new and that right now really does'nt feel right :-\). When this thing gets fixed it had better stay running good for a While. Last night was the first night since new it has spent outside :sosad:. pouring rain, wind, who knows what else :binky:
I have said that since last year when the timing chain on my Outlook failed. I was meticulous in changing the oil between 3000 and 3500 miles. For the chain to stretch, which is what the service department told me it was, the parts used had to been inferior.

Then again a month after the timing chain was replaced it went in again and the engine was dropped again and the more repair work completed on it.

That pretty much made me very wary of dependability. Of course now what drove me to unload the Outlook was the continuous water leaks.

Yep Enclave of course NO SUNROOFS.

Good luck..
 

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hmmm, the 300 is ramdom misfire.
and the 302, 304, 306 are the even cylinders... wonder if its a loose connector...
 

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hmmm, the 300 is ramdom misfire.
and the 302, 304, 306 are the even cylinders... wonder if its a loose connector...
That's what I'm hoping that they might not have plugged somthing in tightly enough when they did the water pump job. A flatbed came and got it today but the dealer did'nt have time to look at since it happened on Sat and they were not open, he said tomorrow a.m. Hopefully not much fuel got dumped into the oil or worse yet the cats. I'll change the oil just to be sure, it does'nt even have 2K on yet. My local Car Quest let me barrow the OBDII which was an AWESOME tool, I can see it now I'd be plugging that thing in every other day if I had one :-\

GM roadside assistance was pretty slick, this was second time I've used it, I had a flatbed within 1 hr of calling :thumb: They even did a follow up automated phone call to check up on things.
 

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yeah with those scanners. or like my laptop software---
when a code is set- you can generate a 'report' that you can print...
in the report will be the data the computer saved when the CEL came on..
stuff like Engine temp and other parameters.. kind of neat..
Almost like a data dump- at the time of the incident.
 

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He's leaning towards the cam positioning sensor, will find out more tomorrow :-\
 

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He's leaning towards the cam positioning sensor, will find out more tomorrow :-\
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Fingers crossed that's all it is and not major surgury :-\ but who knows though.
 

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Fingers crossed that's all it is and not major surgury :-\ but who knows though.
Oh I definitely have my fingers AND toes crossed for you. Good luck!
 

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On a positive note, it's not costing me anything other than greif :) The amount a warranty $$ GM has put into my OUTLOOK I'm sure is getting up there :-\. Better them than me.


I'm thinking an extended warranty might be in the cards even though my PT warranty is good for another 2.5 yrs.
 

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I'm thinking an extended warranty might be in the cards even though my PT warranty is good for another 2.5 yrs.
I would; although I really haven't touched mine except for two minor repairs
 

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I would; although I really haven't touched mine except for two minor repairs
What kind of deductable do you have?
 

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The two repairs I had were completely covered; no deductible
 

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Got it back from the dealership this afternoon and drove it 4 miles back to work, it ran an drove nice. They changed the camshaft positioning sensor 1 of 4 and this one they said was turned a little bit, I not sure what that means but I'll give the part # for it when I get the paperwork. This is the 1st one I've heard of ('09 DI) with this issue. My attitude is a little better when I have it back and in good running condition :)
 

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Well more good news, now I'm getting code P0430 catalyst below threshold, I'm guessing that when the cam sensor went raw unburned fuel dumped into the cat conv and gummed it up or the o2 sensor behind it unless the ECM shut the injectors off when it knew it was misfiring, I tapped on the cat conv with a rubber mallet and no loose noise inside of it, perfect more time at the dealer. I should note that it runs perfect and smooth, probably better than it did before so go figure :-\
 

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Well more good news, now I'm getting code P0430 catalyst below threshold, I'm guessing that when the cam sensor went raw unburned fuel dumped into the cat conv and gummed it up or the o2 sensor behind it unless the ECM shut the injectors off when it knew it was misfiring, I tapped on the cat conv with a rubber mallet and no loose noise inside of it, perfect more time at the dealer. I should note that it runs perfect and smooth, probably better than it did before so go figure :-\
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:comfort:
Thanks for the comfort, this ordeal is :bs: for sure!
 
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