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Wonder if anyone else had this problem and what the fix was? The Service Tire Monitor system code has come on, it had done it before and when I had it at the dealer to have the Tires rotated, they didnt seem to think it was a big deal...well they rotated and balance the tires...but about 500 miles later...it has come on again...just wondering if its a sensor or something on the wheels or what the fix is?

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Well it could be the sensors themselves; have you ever had the sensors rebuilt?
 

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no we havent done anything to the sensors..thats what im wondering..what the error message means. the dealer on the first attempt i guess didnt do much..rotation and balance..but the service light has come back on.
 

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The error message means the tire monitor system has detected a fault. Cycle through the DIC and make sure all your wheels are reading a pressure
 

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Do you have the DIC that can show the pressures in the tires? When I had a tire removed (hole) and put the donut on, the system had a similar message... but showed no pressure in the missing tire while the other 3 tires were fine. If you show pressure listed for all 4, then it might be something else (don't know what), but if pressure isn't reading for all the tires then this will point to a dead/dying battery in one of the sensors.
 

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All we have is the one on the dash, with a push button, I can toggle to wear it says "Relearn Tire Positions"...but not sure if I should try that...Im thinking that something you mentioned..maybe a low battery on a sensor? I guess dealer would have to do that right?
 

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A dealer or tire shop can rebuild the sensors.

What year and model Outlook do you have?
 

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its a 2007 Outlook... thanks for all the input.. I wonder if a good tire place can diagnose the problem, if it isnt the sensors?
 

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most likely the sensors.
each tire has a sensor- that is part of the valve stem.
They have about a 5 yr battery life.... which means that it may just be the battery going out on you...
 

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Dear SurfnWolf,

On page 230 of the 2007 Saturn Outlook owner's manual you will find the following information. This will pertain to the driver information centers that have the buttons on them. You will see a symbol with a car and a lower case "i" to the right of it:
(Vehicle Information): Press this button to display the oil life, park assist on vehicles with this
feature, units, tire pressure readings, Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) system programming, and
Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) transmitter programming.

On page 231 you will also read the following in regards to the TPMS:
DIC. The tire pressure will be shown in either pounds per square inch (psi) or kilopascals (kPa).
Press the vehicle information button until the DIC displays FRONT TIRES PSI (kPa) LEFT ## RIGHT ##. Press the vehicle information button again until the DIC displays REAR TIRES PSI (kPa) LEFT ## RIGHT ##. If a low or high tire pressure condition is detected by the system while driving, a message advising you to check the pressure in a specific tire will appear in the display. See Inflation - Tire Pressure on page 432 and DIC Warnings and Messages on page 239 for more information. If the tire pressure display shows dashes instead of a value, there may be a problem with your vehicle. If this consistently occurs, see your dealer/retailer for service.

I hope this is the information that you were seeking.

Michelle, GM Customer Service
 

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This just went off in my 2008 with 75000 miles. It shows "----" dashes for all 4 tires. Last week it had pressures for all of them. Is there anything simple i can try? Say a reset, or check some connections? Is this a common issue?


GM Customer Service said:
Dear SurfnWolf,

On page 230 of the 2007 Saturn Outlook owner's manual you will find the following information. This will pertain to the driver information centers that have the buttons on them. You will see a symbol with a car and a lower case "i" to the right of it:
(Vehicle Information): Press this button to display the oil life, park assist on vehicles with this
feature, units, tire pressure readings, Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) system programming, and
Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) transmitter programming.

On page 231 you will also read the following in regards to the TPMS:
DIC. The tire pressure will be shown in either pounds per square inch (psi) or kilopascals (kPa).
Press the vehicle information button until the DIC displays FRONT TIRES PSI (kPa) LEFT ## RIGHT ##. Press the vehicle information button again until the DIC displays REAR TIRES PSI (kPa) LEFT ## RIGHT ##. If a low or high tire pressure condition is detected by the system while driving, a message advising you to check the pressure in a specific tire will appear in the display. See Inflation - Tire Pressure on page 432 and DIC Warnings and Messages on page 239 for more information. If the tire pressure display shows dashes instead of a value, there may be a problem with your vehicle. If this consistently occurs, see your dealer/retailer for service.

I hope this is the information that you were seeking.

Michelle, GM Customer Service
 

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The dashes are showing the TPMS can't detect the pressure reading from the sensors.

I would try to redetect the sensors first. I doubt all batteries went dead at the same time.
 

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Found the instructions for the 2008 (slightly different), you have to push both buttons on the key fob at the same time. Went through the process and all is good!
 

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Had to do this today, just replaced the wheels and tires with a set of 19" take offs from a 2010 (mine is a 2008 with the 18s). It took the system a few days to send a message. Fortunately my wife, after being challenged she would not be able to find anything, found the re-learn procedure in the manual. Took ten minutes and good as new. Props to my wife for finding the answer!
 
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